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Interesting argument. I have multiple worries about the conclusion (just a quick sketch):

1. Adhering to consequentialist ethics is required.

2. Eugenics / social darwinism / indirect ethnic cleansing. It's really hard to not think of these highly unethical practices when we are talking about reducing the population of Africa / the middle east (where most of the humans helped by charities probably live) by letting people suffer and die.

3. Charities go to the poorest countries. I would think these countries consume way less animal products than rich countries and thus create less animal suffering.

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Hi! Your article brings out an important consideration, but misses perhaps an even larger one: if we think it is bad that someone's existence causes animals to be born into lives of horrendous suffering, we should also think it should be bad, in general, to cause animals to be born into lives of horrendous suffering. There being less humans on earth, would mean, on balance, many many more wild animals leading lives that are generally horrible : the amount of terrible animal lives prevented by a single human could be much more than we imagine : https://reducing-suffering.org/humanitys-net-impact-on-wild-animal-suffering/ In short : it could turn out that a human living their entire lives out prevents many more lives of animal suffering than it causes. (There are interesting counterarguments to this, like the painist claim that the life of a caged hens is lexically worse than that of a wild anchovy).

You're touching on something important in general, but I think we should go further in examining the consequences of action and inaction: and this is precisely something that I think only effective altruists and individuals who are adjacent to the movement have tried to do in a satisfying way : see https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cypLFJNbsngcDgJqm/the-harm-cascade-why-helping-others-is-so-hard . Overall, the argument this article makes simply reinforces the utmost importance of EA.

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